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Announcements and Introductions / Beware of Utah "Militia" groups - No Bueno
« Last post by blueballshooter on September 19, 2015, 02:39:06 AM »
So, after some research and talking with various "militia" groups in Utah, I've found some very interesting things out.  First, all of the groups seem to be related by ex members or ex founders.  This tells us that these people could not agree on how their "militia" should be run. 

Next, some groups require background checks and dues to be paid.... Is this some kind of exclusive club?  Or possibly a cult?  I did find that some of these groups are very serious about firearms training, which is a plus, but their outings are few and far between.  They have some impressive training setups and it seems that everyone enjoys the "FTX" that they put on about once a month, but unless you are in Utah County, prepare for a really long drive to attend.  I just don't see the dues part working out too well.  Maybe donations are a better way to go.  All in all, this is probably one of the better groups, but still a big turn-off because of the amount of money you'll end up spending to attend any training exercises.

Next, there is a group out there that uses the word "unorganized" in their group name.  Seems this is a ploy meant to "legalize" what their group is.  If it were "organized", it would have to be an official state militia.  This most likely stems from the "leader" of the group, who I found to be very nice, but very paranoid about the government, politics, the jade helm rumors and generally any kind of conspiracy theory.  I found that their lack of members most likely stemmed from the group of old guys that frequently attend group events.  When you meet Robert Falin UT, he seems like a nice guy, but he's the type that is watching everything you do, to see if he can try to "recruit" you and your friends, or simply try to find something wrong with you to exclude you from future events.   And note that these guys try to have outing regularly, but very few people ever show up.  It's disorganized and lacks any real training value.  There might be a hike and some generic shooting, but that's about the extent of their "training".  Hard to call that a "militia".  They are more like a political group, that goes out and does some target shooting, and some protests on bridges.

So, with all of that in mind, I've found that most "militia" groups in Utah are severely lacking in a lot of areas.  I would conclude that starting your own group and keeping to a simple "survival training" group would be your best bet.  I wouldn't even bother with the word "militia" here in Utah, since most of the groups that use that name are not worthy of having any kind of title.  Just a bunch of rag tag rogues running around the desert with almost no firearms training, and no survival skills to speak of, but they love to buy all the fancy survival gear and guns to show off.  Anyway, just an FYI to all who may have been wondering about the militia groups in Utah.  Signing Off...... echo-one-eight-seven OUT!
Announcements and Introductions / Places to shoot
« Last post by Dogdivision on August 29, 2015, 04:03:36 PM »
Hey all. I'm new to utah and looking for a place to shoot somewhere besides a range. I'm in salt lake. Any suggestions close by? Also looking to hunt big game. California coastal bucks are cool but small. I hear utah is rad for big game. Thanks for the info.
Handguns / Interstate,interfamily tranfer
« Last post by conngrav on March 01, 2015, 07:40:03 PM »
Hello all! This has probably been covered, but my brother lives in CO and wanted to get me a XD(M) for my 20th birthday. Is it legal? If so how can we go about doing this?
Announcements and Introductions / Utah Resident Outside Of Utah
« Last post by Uinta Firearms on February 04, 2015, 09:42:48 PM »
For some of you on UCC this is old news.

My name is Connor.  I'm a Utah resident, born and raised, but haven't lived in the borders of Utah since 1/25/09.  I miss it a lot and wish I could home to raise my 2 boys, but Uncle Sam has other plans.  Before you get all giddy, I'm not the active servicemember, although I am a veteran of the Marines.  My wife is now active duty in the Navy.  I just play the roll of spouse, which is tougher than being a grunt in the Corp.

We're currently at Great Lakes, IL, and have been here since July 2012.  We are moving to Philadelphia in July of this year so my wife can begin working on her Masters Degree, which the Navy will be paying.  We are very fortunate for that.

As for myself, I learned a very painful lesson that I've been resisting since leaving Utah.  I now understand why there are so many dependopotamii in the military community.  Employers don't want to hire somebody who will be leaving in a few short years, so I've started working on becoming my own employer.  My user name, Uinta Firearms, is the name of my firearms training business, Uinta Firearms Training, Inc.  It is HQ'd in Midvale, but I've established foreign entities whenever I move, and discontinued those foreign entities when I leave that area.  Yeah, the taxation sucks, but it's worth it for the stability.

Uinta Firearms Training, Inc is a subsidiary of Uinta Preparations, Corp.  Uinta Preparations, Corp has other subsidiaries currently in the development stages.  The main reason being, I understand being a firearms instructor is not going to provide a comfortable standard of living, but it does create a foundation to build upon so a comfortable standard of living can be earned.  In 6 months I hope to say farewell to the last employer I ever have to work for.

Because I'm a firearms instructor and business owner, I am also politically active.  Since concealed carry became a reality in Illinois I have been actively involved in elections, repealing Gun Free Zones, rallies, town hall meetings, etc.  I've also fought against the AWB created by the town I live in that was a response to Illinois permitting concealed carry.  Because of my work in that matter I put a very big target on my back.  The antis are waiting for me to screw up.

At this point I'm looking forward to moving to the Philly suburbs.  It's much more pro 2A.  I could use the rest and relaxation.

Any questions for me?  Ask away.
Announcements and Introductions / Re: How'd you hear about
« Last post by Uinta Firearms on February 04, 2015, 09:12:02 PM »
A referral on UCC
Rifles and Shotguns / Help with a Franchi I-12
« Last post by CDBank on November 13, 2014, 12:54:23 AM »
I am needing some help getting my shotgun up and running again.
So this is the story: I left for two years on my mission and my franchi shotgun was left in my dads safe with the action open.
the problem: When firing it does not eject the round, when done manually it doesn't do well sliding the next shell into the chamber and the bolt does not close without me having to apply force.
My hypothesis: The inertia driven system of the Franchi I-12 is based on the spring under the hand guard. I think that after leaving the bolt open for so long it has lost its strength.  I dont know how easy that is to repair? Or where I would get one?
Am I on the right track? What can I do to fix it?
or if i'm out of my league repairing it at home, where should i go to fix it, and how much?
Reloading and Handloading / Re: Weighing In, Scale test.
« Last post by Clayne_b on November 12, 2014, 07:37:42 PM »
Announcements and Introductions / Moving from Commia-fornia to awesome Utah
« Last post by seraph67 on July 25, 2014, 11:36:37 PM »
O'lo Utah Firearm Owners,

I am glad that I was able to source out this website for fellow Utah gun owners. My preference to shoot are 1911's .45acp firearms. I currently own 5 of them. My avatar is my first 1911, a Para Warthog, she was a Regal SS Model but I got her cerakoted in Midnight Blue w/Burnt Bronze accents. My other Para is an Elite Ionbond full size.I was able to score a safe queen NBF a Para C7.LDA. I also have two Rugers, P345 & SR45. And on the 28th I acquire my first wheel-gun, a S&W 625-8 Professional Jim Miculek Series. .45acp of course. Now, I just need to acquire a handful of speed loaders and ton of moonclips  :D

Would someone be kind enough to advise me of some gun ranges in the Pleasant Grove, Lehi, American Fork area. I prefer indoor ranges but I am also eager to shoot open as well.

Thank you for assistance.

All the best,

~ Seraph67 ~
Announcements and Introductions / New to Utah, not to shooting.
« Last post by GlockBlocked on June 10, 2014, 07:20:44 PM »
Howdy. I'm moving to UT for my job, so I'm here to keep up with the local shooting community. I'm from AZ, so I'm very lucky to be moving to another gun friendly state.

I'm especially looking forward to any pistol competitions, particularly steel USPSA or facsimile. If you know of any in the Provo / Draper area, please let me know.

Rifles and Shotguns / Marlin Model 60 trigger problem
« Last post by LiveFreeOrDie on May 19, 2014, 01:19:41 PM »
Inherited this rifle knowing nothing about it's condition. It's an early model 60, tube fed. Trouble is it won't fire and the amount of travel on the trigger doesn't seem to be right. I think the problem is the trigger doesn't pull back far enough and provide enough movement. Before I attempt to take it apart or more than likely replace it I hope someone has any advice on how to verify if there's a problem with the action or the trigger. How far does the trigger mechanism move? Mine seems to only move a few mm, not more than 3/16". I inspected the action which looks fine and can manually trigger the firing pin. Inspected the trigger assembly and can not find anything broken other than the lack of travel. Before I tear it apart or replace it I thought I'd ask for some advice. Searched youtube, google etc and was unable to find anyone with the same problem.
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